In a previous blog, I discussed Trump's interview with David Muir where he stated that 3 to 5 million votes were cast illegally and that every single one of those votes were cast for Hillary. Trump's repeated claims are in part based on the yet to be disclosed work of conspiracy theorist Greg Phillips who claims to even have the names of 3 million people who voted illegally. The GOP and First Amendment Conservative Values
I am going to drag and drop here excerpts from that discussion and then discuss recent developments on this issue.
Phillips was questioned by Andrew Cuomo about his findings. Possible source of Trump's mass voter fraud claim says proof is on the way - CNNPolitics.com I would recommend viewing that interview after putting your ideology in your pocket and viewing this cross examination as you would as a juror during trial. Is Phillips remotely credible?
He is just a guy, who worked in the 1980s and 1990s in the Mississippi and Alabama republican parties who has an organization somewhere called VoteStand. Maybe that is an just an APP that can be downloaded by disgruntled white men who discover illegal voting by non-white people at elections.
He has been making this claim, which Trump accepts as true, without providing anyone with proof.
NBC has some of this tweets from Mr. Phillips:
" No matter what Obama or anyone else says, the only entity that hacked election systems was Obama's Department of Homeland Security."
"The most tyrannical result of Obama's eight years was weaponization of Government against the people."
Biased? True Believer? Wing-Nut?
Birds of a feather flock together? I will answer that one. Yes they do.
I would also recommend reading the transcript of David Muir's interview with Trump.
Here are two excerpts:
Quotes From Interview:
"DAVID MUIR: Do you think that that talking about millions of illegal votes is dangerous to this country without presenting the evidence?
PRESIDENT TRUMP: No, not at all.
(OVERTALK)
PRESIDENT TRUMP: Not at all because many people feel the same way that I do. And ...
DAVID MUIR: You don't think it undermines your credibility if there’s no evidence?
(OVERTALK)
PRESIDENT TRUMP: No, not at all because they didn't come to me. Believe me. Those were Hillary votes. And if you look at it they all voted for Hillary. They all voted for Hillary. They didn't vote for me. I don't believe I got one. Okay, these are people that voted for Hillary Clinton. And if they didn't vote, it would've been different in the popular." (emphasis added)
DAVID MUIR: What you have presented so far has been debunked. It's been called ...
(OVERTALK)
DAVID MUIR: ... false.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: No, it hasn't. Take a look at the Pew reports.
DAVID MUIR: I called the author of the Pew report last night. And he told me that they found no evidence of voter ...
(OVERTALK)
DAVID MUIR: ... fraud.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: Really? Then why did he write the report?
DAVID MUIR: He said no evidence of voter fraud.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: Excuse me, then why did he write the report?
(OVERTALK)
PRESIDENT TRUMP: According to Pew report, then he's -- then he's groveling again. You know, I always talk about the reporters that grovel when they wanna write something that you wanna hear but not necessarily millions of people wanna hear or have to hear."
End of Quotes:
Trump is certain that (1) three to five million votes were cast illegally; (2) everyone one of those votes went to Hillary; and (3) the author of the Pew report has changed his tune and is now groveling again.
How many times did he say that Hillary received all of the illegal votes? When I heard him talking, a parrot tripping on LSD immediately came to mine.
The Pew report never said that millions voted illegally as Trump claims. Trump’s Bogus Voter Fraud Claims Revisited: FactCheck.org; Sean Spicer wrongly uses Pew study to bolster claim that non-citizens vote in large numbers-PolitiFact; Pew Report
How many times did he say that Hillary received all of the illegal votes? When I heard him talking, a parrot tripping on LSD immediately came to mine.
The Pew report never said that millions voted illegally as Trump claims. Trump’s Bogus Voter Fraud Claims Revisited: FactCheck.org; Sean Spicer wrongly uses Pew study to bolster claim that non-citizens vote in large numbers-PolitiFact; Pew Report
By the way, among the people registered in two states are Steve Bannon (Trump's close advisor), Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner (Chief Guru), Trump's Press Secretary (the Alternate Fact Guy) and Trump's daughter Tiffany. Trump is certain that every single person who is registered in two states voted for Hillary. Proof is no longer necessary before a U.S. President makes that kind of statement.
Texas recently caught someone with a green card who voted a few times. She was a registered republican, voted for Mitt Romney and was sentenced to eight years in prison for her actions. She should be grateful that she wasn't hanged. Republican green-card holder who voted illegally in Texas gets 8 years in prison - The Washington Post So the republicans found one.
Trump will not present any proof to support his assertions and keeps bringing the subject up which only detracts from furthering the GOP's agenda and increases opposition to him. He is also raising issues about his mental stability.
New Hampshire:
The GOP now controls the state senate and house. The republican Chris Sununu is now governor and is a Donald Trump clone.
Republican candidate for governor Chris Sununu says Mass. voters bused across border to vote in NH | PolitiFact (rated as "Pants on Fire")
Sununu never provided any proof, and admits now that he has not personally seen those buses either.
Proof is not necessary when the object of such claims is to suppress legal voting by Democrat leaning voters. Many of NH GOP's current and past efforts at voter suppression seem to be aimed a college students who are legal residents and entitled to vote. They are not voting the right way.
Last week, Trump asserted that he lost New Hampshire due to voter fraud. The head of the Federal Election Commission, Ellen Weintrub, asked Trump to provide proof of his claim.
"As a Commissioner on the Federal Election Commission, I am acutely aware that our democracy rests on the faith of the American people in the integrity of their elections," she wrote in a statement. "The President has issued an extraordinarily serious and specific charge. Allegations of this magnitude cannot be ignored."
She will be waiting a long time to receive a response. If there was any proof, the republicans in NH would have presented it a long time ago.
Trump believes that illegal Hillary voters were bused from Massachusetts which cost Trump to lose NH by 2,736 votes. Trump brings up vote fraud again-POLITICO; Trump cites voter fraud in NH without providing evidence - The Washington Post
A normal tour bus carries about 54 people on average, so that is about 50 buses leaving Massachusetts full of Hillary voters, willing to risk jail to vote for her in New Hampshire.
No one saw those buses. Perhaps Donald say them.
No bus company has stepped forward acknowledging that buses were rented for this excursion
No one has a picture of those 50 or so buses idling at the polling stations.
No suspicions were raised by 2736+ fake identifications that had to be presented to cast a vote. New Hampshire’s tough new voter ID-Fusion; New Hampshire Students Say They Were Illegally Turned Away From The Polls (some evidence that the republicans have been successful in discouraging the exercise of voting rights in N.H.)
Former Senator Kelly Ayotte (R), lost by 743 votes. She does not blame the loss on voter fraud.
Trump also told her in the same meeting that she would have won by supporting him more, even though she received more votes than Trump and lost by a narrower margin.
Kelly Ayotte 353,525
Donald Trump 345,790
We can rule out that Donald is telling the truth.
That leaves only two conclusions.
He knows that he is lying or he doesn't know because he is unable to separate facts from his own reality creations.
In the latest development, Stephen Miller, one of Trump's closest aides and the reported driving force behind the Muslim Ban, felt an overpowering need to double down on Trump's massive voter fraud claims during the Sunday talk shows.
Mr. Miller reminds me of a younger version of H. R. Haldeman, but he is far more fanatical than H.R.
Miller became a republican after reading Guns and Ammo and becoming familiar with the writings of actor Charlton Heston, the guy from Ben-Hur (1959) - IMDb and The Ten Commandments (1956) - IMDb, though more famous now as the long time head of the NRA and for proclaiming many times that his gun will be taken only From My Cold Dead Hands-YouTube.
Stephen Miller: A key engineer for Trump’s ‘America first’ agenda - The Washington Post
Prior to his association with Trump, Miller is probably best known as the author of an article titled "Sorry feminists" explaining in his opinion why women do not receive equal pay. Stephen Miller Profile-POLITICO. Ann Coulter views this 31 year old man as a brave, super sharp, brilliant and courageous, so that speaks volumes. I will just call him a True Believer who exists in his own reality creations that are impervious to accurate information.
Miller became a republican after reading Guns and Ammo and becoming familiar with the writings of actor Charlton Heston, the guy from Ben-Hur (1959) - IMDb and The Ten Commandments (1956) - IMDb, though more famous now as the long time head of the NRA and for proclaiming many times that his gun will be taken only From My Cold Dead Hands-YouTube.
Stephen Miller: A key engineer for Trump’s ‘America first’ agenda - The Washington Post
Prior to his association with Trump, Miller is probably best known as the author of an article titled "Sorry feminists" explaining in his opinion why women do not receive equal pay. Stephen Miller Profile-POLITICO. Ann Coulter views this 31 year old man as a brave, super sharp, brilliant and courageous, so that speaks volumes. I will just call him a True Believer who exists in his own reality creations that are impervious to accurate information.
This is one of the comments made by Miller last Sunday:
“I can tell you that this issue of busing voters into New Hampshire is widely known by anyone who’s worked in New Hampshire politics,” Miller said. “It’s very real. It’s very serious. . "
Evidence and facts no longer matter and that is a fact. True is False. False is True.
What really matters is that GOP wants to suppress voting by groups that normally vote for Democrats and to call into question the election results when they lose. The frequent and unproven allegations of voter fraud are also used to energize their supporters to vote in order to offset the purported millions of illegals voting for Democrats.
Miller is just another far right reactionary zealot except this one has the ear of the U.S. President along with his buddy Steve Bannon.
The GOP's successful voter suppression and gerrymandering efforts will probably allow them to keep control over the U.S. House of Representatives for many years to come. The GOP's successful gerrymandering efforts have had and will continue to have the same anti-democratic purpose. The purpose is to aggregate as many Democrat voters into one district and the result is no relationship between the size of the Democrat vote statewide and the number of congressional seats won.
Gerrymandering Rigged the 2014 Elections for GOP Advantage | BillMoyers.com;
Ratf**ked: The True Story Behind the Secret Plan to Steal America's Democracy: Amazon.com;
Dark Money: The Hidden History of the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right;
It's Even Worse Than It Looks: How the American Constitutional System Collided with the New Politics of Extremism
If the Democrats ever get serious about reversing the impact of those well entrenched anti-democratic GOP programs, the effort will need to be from the ground up, starting with the state house and senate seats which are also being gerrymandered.
The GOP's efforts to keep legal voters from voting can be effectively addressed, not by constantly complaining about their true purpose, but by working with those who lack identification to comply with the new voting requirement laws long before the next election cycle.
Ex-GOP staffer says senators were 'giddy' over voter ID law (the purpose was to restrain voting in poor and college districts)
E.G. How Tennessee's voter ID law silenced me (Vanderbilt student)
With top to bottom control in 24 states now, those efforts will continue to be successful. State G.O.P. Leaders Move Swiftly-The New York Times The allegations of voter fraud are the fraud being committed.
Those unproven allegations masquerading as facts are made to acquire and maintain political power and are inconsistent with what use to be basic American conservative values.
John Oliver's Take
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